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Post by turok on May 16, 2003 13:24:23 GMT -8
HEy Knowledge, i dindt understand what you mean yesterday, grenades is old? humm... the game came out only for like 4 months now, and me im only playing IGI 2 for 2 months now, so i dont think its relly old.... And its not true that grenade are pretty easy, try to kill pep in front of you with grenade when they got g36 or whatever gun its pretty hard! And when theres sniper to, try to kill the sniper with grenades! I love grenades, its my favorites weapons at this game, i never played a game before that i was palying with grenades, but with this game damn i love thoses grenades, and i practiced a lot with them and now getting not to bad!! HEHEH thats it just to say that !!!   |
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Post by X S U R G E X DS X on May 16, 2003 13:35:29 GMT -8
HEy Knowledge, i dindt understand what you mean yesterday, grenades is old? humm... the game came out only for like 4 months now, and me im only playing IGI 2 for 2 months now, so i dont think its relly old.... And its not true that grenade are pretty easy, try to kill pep in front of you with grenade when they got g36 or whatever gun its pretty hard! And when theres sniper to, try to kill the sniper with grenades! I love grenades, its my favorites weapons at this game, i never played a game before that i was palying with grenades, but with this game damn i love thoses grenades, and i practiced a lot with them and now getting not to bad!! HEHEH thats it just to say that !!! I agree with you Turok but the only part about being a good grenader is that you have to practice using them all the time and you get to the point were your like Gotcha, all you do is grenade. So its effective but not as smart if you ask me. If you just grenade you will never learn how to shoot that thing. Thats why I dont use grenades very much because "grenade" skill will come alonge in a future for me. I rather kill you with my weak pistol and charge at you knowing that you will not shoot your G36 but instead try to grenade me. So I know you wont shoot back so I just kill you before you make your good throw. A lot of times with both end up dead. I kill you than your grenade kills me. Now if you ask me I think its pointless. Whats the point? This isnt DeathMatch its who can servive and get the obj and only way to get the objtive is to stay alive!  |
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Post by turok on May 16, 2003 13:56:08 GMT -8
Hum ya maybe, you must make the objectif, thats true, but if killed you, its 1 people less than before to defend the objectif, 1 people to attack to i know.... So my point is that i can make really nice entrance with my grenades without being killed and kill a lot of players! And its very difficult to play with grenades... But i like the AK47 to, thats my gun and the AUG to!  |
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Post by X S U R G E X DS X on May 16, 2003 14:17:32 GMT -8
Hum ya maybe, you must make the objectif, thats true, but if killed you, its 1 people less than before to defend the objectif, 1 people to attack to i know.... So my point is that i can make really nice entrance with my grenades without being killed and kill a lot of players! And its very difficult to play with grenades... But i like the AK47 to, thats my gun and the AUG to! Yeah a good Grenade guy on the squad doesnt hurt, but you have to make sure he at least knows how to point that thing at someone ;D |
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Post by Knowledge on May 17, 2003 16:26:30 GMT -8
my point is 1.grenades dont take that much skill the kill radius is nasty, just get em in there and boom, 2.nowadays ppl arent even tactically nading, they just thro them in an area where there mite be ppl, let it blow and take their guns 3.PPL KEEP KILLING THEIR OWN TEAM WITH THEM, i cant remeber the last tiem i did unless it was an M16 misfire, if i see teammates in front of me, unless im 100% sure of their location and movements, I DONT THRO! 4.PPL who misude/abuse nades should be reliquished of their use for like a month as punishment lol 5. grenades are good, when used correctly, but they only get u so far, how many times ive shot someone in mid thro without them having a prayer to retaliate, thats a no-no, in any wargame u must be ready to react at a moments notice, so yea u mite blow the first guy away but then all his freinds waste u 6.half the time u kill me personally turookk u get urself and thats just bull, CS had the same thing but it was better because if u naded urself ! u had no money next round and B there is no respawn so u have to wait the eniter round out C u lose a kill and gain a death hurting ur ratio so it was much less common.. 7.I play these games because they take true skill ^_^ 1 shot one kill, tactically outhinking ur opponent, not nuking them and killing one guy with a nade, thats not the way of the military, otherwise Bagdad would be a nuclear wonderland by now hehe jus my two cents on WEAKNESS nading is fine, but dont make it a habit, or ull never gain ur true skill ^_^ |
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Post by turok on May 18, 2003 6:03:03 GMT -8
Yeah cool, but im really practicing with grenade and it need skill sorry, bacause all the time i shooted my grenade i killed a player, i dont shoot grenade everywhere at random, i must see the guy and then im taking my grenades and kill him! And in Irak they dindt took grenade.. SURE its real life, thats a 3d game you can be good at everything, but i keep practicing the other gun to! LATA! Ya now i really use other guns to because when we are alot in the same area, i can trowh the grenade to dangerous to blow out team! |
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Post by WolfsRain~*DS*~ on May 18, 2003 19:10:19 GMT -8
I agree with what knowledge is saying, not just because we are roomies, but because i play these first person shooters for the same reason. I even got tired of playing deathmatch in medal of honor because some guys just used the rocket launchers. These games are made to be strategic, and take skill to fire the guns.
**Throwing nades, and using the RPGs is part of the game, but only using them is just plain rediculous. I know you Turok and you are a skilled mofo =). This message just goes to those people who are playing this game like Quake, or Halflife. If you want to play a high powered blow em up death match using greandes and rockets, play either one of those titles =).
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Post by X S U R G E X DS X on May 19, 2003 20:16:41 GMT -8
[glow=blue,2,300]This is where I think your wrong knowledge. Grenades DO take skill. Sure they might not take skill for just adding kills but they do take lots and lots of skill. * Just grenading is dumb, and yes its very nonskilful. * Grenading for your team and hiting the enemy blowing the shit out of them with out hurting your team and yourself, now thats a challenge I dont care what you say but thats fricking hard to do. * The skill part about it is killing 2 enemys with out using your gun and hurting youself or your team. This takes much practice in "Throwing the grenade right before they blow up" * You have time your throws very very carefully. If you thrwo the nade to quick, the enemy can easily kill you by moving away from your grenade that you threw and shoot you in the head really quick. Thats why a good grenader cant be spotted and when he is spotted, you will be dead because the grenade will blow right in front of your face before you can fire.  This is skill. * Just like a good sniper, you can be a bitch and say sniping is easy and shit like that and you can rack up kills none stop which is true but not when you have good gamers in the server playing against you. Just like grenaders, you have to know what you are doing or else your dead. Every postion gots its own way of being succesful. * "Anyone can throw a grenade, but not all can throw it effectively"  Just my 2 cents. [/glow] |
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Post by lxSlDemon on May 19, 2003 22:26:55 GMT -8
Hey surge remember when i threw a nade and almost killed use. well i perfected my skill but tend to use smoke nades more. to use smoke nades it takes a lot of skill to know how to use them for your advantage. |
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Post by X S U R G E X DS X on May 19, 2003 22:35:28 GMT -8
to use smoke nades it takes a lot of skill to know how to use them for your advantage. Thats the only skill that is required for smoke grenades lol ;D |
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Post by Ravanux~*DS*~ on May 20, 2003 9:08:55 GMT -8
You can be cheap with any weapon. The thing I've been trying to focus on is knowing how and when to use every weapon and so that I can use each weapon effectively. So if I find myself without a weapon and pick up one, I won't ever be in a bad situation. I usually buy grenades when ever I have available money cause it doesn't hurt to pack the added fire power. But it has taken a lot of practice to be able to kill effectively with nades. Also nades aren't only about killing. I've used them to herd opponents to where it is easier for me to kill them with the weapon I have. My focus right now is not to be limited by what I've done and seen done before.
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Post by Knowledge on May 20, 2003 9:09:23 GMT -8
ok the purpose of a nade is two fold
1. to hurt ur enemy at a distance by using a large blast radius to damage many ppl at once
2. to break defensive holds without exposing urself to the enemy.
thats fine, and ppl o use them as such, thats great BUT
most pl are nothign more than nade whores
they wait for the enemy to come then drop a nade at their feet, they throw nades randomly into enemy territory without any idea where the enemy is, they thro them into the middle of a fire figt gurting and or killing their own teammates in the process, they thro them at an enemy on the run, toward and objective usually, this means the team has to wait for the nade to blow in order to follow the enemy, who by that time has gotten the obj thnx to the pause the nade creates.
this is the kind of nade whorage that is pointless, useless, annoying, and uncalled for, and its always those who deem us as cheaters becaue we make "unbeleivable kills" when its just us at our level having practiced firing weapons over just throwing nades
nading is fine, but when a team is relying on it and they buy naeds every five seconds, or my personal fav, by an m16 and 3 nades never to fire the gun itself because when they run out of nades they dont know wat to do lmao
I play these games for realism, a sniper perching on a hill and skillfully popping heads from a distance is realistic, ppl droppping nades at their feet and hoping they can run away b4 it blows or trowing nades ANYWHERE near their teammates IS NOT!
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Post by X S U R G E X DS X on May 20, 2003 11:40:00 GMT -8
[glow=blue,2,300]Hey I dont like people that have no skill in shooting the gun so all they do is use the M16 Nade and blow you up and kill them self. I just cant stand people like that. Its another thing if they just kill me, but they kill themself while trying to kill me. This tells me that they arent skilled enough to shoot me or kill me so they go no a sucide mission just to kill me and they dont care if they die with me. pisses me off! [/glow] |
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Post by Shadowkilla~*DS*~ on May 20, 2003 12:18:07 GMT -8
i don't use granades much because i try to stay away from suicide situations or to kill my own team and risk an objective faillure, but if you do know how to use nades and u mix guns with nades, i don't mind, but keep in mind not to kill ur team and urself.
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Post by lxSlDemon on May 20, 2003 14:50:34 GMT -8
MAC-10 ownz all!!! You want a skill that is efective, learn to use a Mac-10. fast load,unload,kills. it does everything you need and is cheap. The worst wepons are sometimes the most efective. AK is my second choice because i can shoot through any walls.  cant we all just get along. |
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This is skill.
