A word on cheating...HACKS101 is in session!

[Optic~*DS*~]

Ok children, gather round and let Optic talk...class is in session:

1) THERE ARE NO CHEATS FOR IGI2! (yet) Though, no doubt if anyone actually played IGI2 enough (the most players I have ever seen worldwide online at once was about 250 people) to warrant making hacks, then someone might try and be successful, but GOOD LUCK since:

2) IGI2 is a Direct3D rendered game. For those of you who play Counterstrike and don't know a damn thing about 3d graphics, CS is rendered in OpenGL.

3) Most of the classic and now infamous CS hacks (OGC and HLH) were based on hacking OpenGL code, which has been publicly available since it came out back in the early 1990s.

4) Wallhacks only need to change the opacity (how transparent an object is) of brushes (geometrical shapes that form a Quake/Quake2/Half-Life based map) so that they can be seen through.

5) Aimbots in turn, are based on visual cues from OpenGL rendering. For example, it might texture an enemy player model to a shade of red or blue with yellow target points for the head and chest, and then match the aiming cursor to coincide with the pixel coordinate of the correct color. Lehman's terms, it aims at the yellow spot on the head whenever you push a binded key.

6) So far as anyone has tried, these things cannot be accomplished in Direct3D, since it costs money to pay for licenses from Microsoft to have access to DirectX/Direct3D code, and it is much better encrypted.

7) Since most current games are rendered in Direct3D and NOT OpenGL, most current FPS games cannot be hacked like Half-Life can.

Ok, that all being said, I am sorry to ruin the excuses of many of the children who play IGI2 as to why they suck and die all time.

The reason why they accuse people of cheating is to get everyone on their side and throwing accusations at players so they will leave the server and so that they are discredited in general.

Now I, personally, have heard from some idiot players in public servers that I cheat and that I have a reputation in some mysterious public forum somewhere.

This is good for me I think, since once people learn what I have typed above, they will realize that these disgruntled kids are full of BS, and that all there crap just proves the people they are accusing are far better than they are, and that they know absolutely nothing about computer games and how hacks are made. All they know is that their friend down the street gave them some hack for CS found online on some website, and then OF COURSE (lol) those types of things MUST (lol) be available for EVERY (lol) game. What a bunch of morons, eh?

Anyway kids, for those of you accusing me or any other DS of cheating...

THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENTS! Keep up the good work!

Ok, class dismissed. ;D

[POLYD3XT3ROUS[PK]]

All sad but true.

1.) Rule of hacking, anything that exists can be hacked.

2.) Hackers exist in all facet of society, music, auto, gambaling and of course anything comp related.

3.) To my knowledge igi2 has no current form of cshp or otherwise.

4.) Not many of us have the time to test all setups, some ppl have experienced opacity concerns simply by using diff vid cards/drivers.

5.) By no means does "hacked" mean the implementation of malicious or unwarranted code. Many good things come from our friends the whitehats like whole patching.

6.) Just because you don't know that it doesn't exist don't mean it doesn't. That goes for anything but god concepts.

7.) Optic has no modesty.

[Ravanux~*DS*~]

Okay we need a new DS rule....I request that Optic and Poly no longer be able to post responses to each other's posts; except where the response/outcome/idea/joke is positive or when they are saying something derogatory about Gotcha ;)...
you guys are crackin me up#nosmileys#nosmileys

[X S U R G E X DS X]

POLYD3XT3ROUS said:

All sad but true.

1.) Rule of hacking, anything that exists can be hacked.

2.) Hackers exist in all facet of society, music, auto, gambaling and of course anything comp related.

3.) To my knowledge igi2 has no current form of cshp or otherwise.

4.) Not many of us have the time to test all setups, some ppl have experienced opacity concerns simply by using diff vid cards/drivers.

5.) By no means does "hacked" mean the implementation of malicious or unwarranted code. Many good things come from our friends the whitehats like whole patching.

6.) Just because you don't know that it doesn't exist don't mean it doesn't. That goes for anything but god concepts.

7.) Optic has no modesty.

I will not be a kn0b like in codemasters forums, the admins edit or even delete other peoples post. I think thats very immature Ravanux and i will not do it. But I can type, and the only thing I want to say is come on fella's why can't we be friends?

Optic has a point, their is NO trainers for this game and it's VERY VERY hard to create cheats because of the new engine.

[shadow=blue,left,300]So unless your a true "kn0b" and want to spend your time createing cheats instead of playing the game, than sorry to say its pretty sad [/shadow]

[Knowledge]

ok ok
my turn

1)Optic is quite rite
2)POLY is rite about haxors tho, if theres a will theres a way, I was one NOT A GAME HAXOR mind u but a haxor non the less
3)haxors ahve their uses sometimes, a kid in my clan hacked the server hosting program for mechwarrior 2, and added in a cheat scan but alon with that was a virus, so if u wercaught cheating the server sent a virus into ur CPU? that destroyed ur game file adn prevented any further instillation unless u reformatted ^_^ very nice
and
4)I OWN U
thnx ;D

[Ravanux~*DS*~]

That's a good point Surge...we don't need a forum Dictator controling the what is read by the rest of the users...AND it is kinda entertaining.
I also got some nice screenies on how i owned the DS crew last night on Redstone

[Optic~*DS*~]

Point taken, Poly.

I remember the old Savage issues with CS, such that a graphics driver can change opacity...but once again that was on OpenGL. Nothing I've heard indicates that this can be done with Direct3d, and anything you here from people to that effect is probably a bunch of BS. The type of people who say that kind of thing are the same type who said there was a cheat code to get Lara Croft naked in every Tomb Raider game ever made.

Psychologically, those kind of people are attention seekers, just like hackers. Maybe momma didn't breast-feed them, maybe daddy didn't show up at their soccer games... But whatever the reason, they need attention, and for things they say to cause ann effect for them to measure and be proud of. A sad testament to sad people.

Still, it doesn't change the fact that due to IGI2s complete lack of current popularity, a true hacker wouldn't waste the effort, since very little attention is to be gained by hacking a game that only about 1,000 people play worldwide. CS at any giver time has at least 100,000 players worldwide, and probably has a couple of million people that play it regularly. That, my friends, is why it get hacked so much... That and the public OpenGL code.

If it makes everyone feel better though, I will stay updated on the hack possibilities in the game, so I can warn everyone when and if exploits are found. A fraternity brother of mine works at the DirectX division of Microsoft, so I'll get him to tell me where driver exploits are possible as well.

Cheers.

[DateRIF~*DS*~]

You guys sound well informed... too well informed . Have u made a hack before... hmmm... once a hacker always a cracker. .......
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YOU DAMN CHEATER!!!!! .... LMAO just joking.

BTW can we call it cracking... hacking just seems like some sort of a compliment. Only losers would attempt to do such a gay ass thing.

[POLYD3XT3ROUS[PK]]

UPDATE!

It's offical. The game has been altered using a hex editor. The first sighting was of someone using the hack to be invis. He disarmed the bomb while I had my aug scope on it. I asked him how he did it and he proceeded to tell me about the hex editor and so on. He was polite enough to stop using it and told me about how he was tring to do one where the objects were removed. I guess that would mean he would be seeing tru walls but then again bumping into them. Yes I have the screenines .incomplete of course slow updates on the print screen. I'm not going to name names, that would be f-up cause he didn't continue using them. I will tell you the name will sound familar if your a ds regular.

Anyhow. had fun today. someone jumped on named Activity and started cussing me out from the very start for no reason, I never even landed a hit on him. To much fun, ppl are just nuts.

[X S U R G E X DS X]

POLYD3XT3ROUS said:

UPDATE!

It's offical. The game has been altered using a hex editor. The first sighting was of someone using the hack to be invis. He disarmed the bomb while I had my aug scope on it. I asked him how he did it and he proceeded to tell me about the hex editor and so on. He was polite enough to stop using it and told me about how he was tring to do one where the objects were removed. I guess that would mean he would be seeing tru walls but then again bumping into them. Yes I have the screenines .incomplete of course slow updates on the print screen. I'm not going to name names, that would be f-up cause he didn't continue using them. I will tell you the name will sound familar if your a ds regular.

Anyhow. had fun today. someone jumped on named Activity and started cussing me out from the very start for no reason, I never even landed a hit on him. To much fun, ppl are just nuts.

Wow shocking. I think i might know who though, can you please PM me the name POLY? I would like to know. Also can you send me screenshots? I just want ot make sure it wasnt massive lag.

[Ravanux~*DS*~]

All I have to say is WOW! That really sucks, I hoped it would stay as clean as it has been, but I guess that was naive of me.